At just under $3,000, this is a pretty expensive range toy with sub par accuracy. Ambi Selector Switch. SMG .45 FEATURES: Fully Ambidextrous lower controls: AR Selector, bolt catch, grip and hammer/trigger allows easy operation for right or left handed shooters Innovative Paddle Style Mag release. Im just concerned about the accuracy. Pricey, but so much fun to shoot. The whole recoil system on the Vector is an interesting design and the one I shot was pretty nice, though it was a 9mm. as much as I like the idea of a PCC in .45 ACP, Im not seeing a reason this would be 3x as much fun as a Scorpion EVO 3 at the range. The Airborne LWRC SMG 45 variant features an ergonomic vertical grip and sling, with an AimPoint red dot optic for superior targeting and the ultimate thrill. So Why would anyone buy this instead of a b&t apc45? COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Reactions: Voyager1. Evidently MY SMG doesn't like the extra weight of the suppressor on the front end. Only drawback to the B&T is the magazines are expensive. For 3k price, I will go for a top of the line Wilson Combat AR pistol that takes glock mag AND with the rest of the money get a Glock 19 that also takes Glock mag. MAP. I have put 700+ rnds through it. The Rossi 92: A Firearm That Delivers Both Quality and Value, Sig Sauer 716 Tread 762 Nato 16" Barrel 308 AR-10 R716I-16B-TRD, CZ SCORPION Evo Pistol 9mm OD Green 91355, Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 2.0 9mm NTS No Thumb Safety 11808, MPA Pistol 9mm 6" Threaded Barrel Black Masterpiece Arms 30T, Radical Firearms RF00154 FP10.5-300HBAR-10RPR AR Pistol .300 AAC 10.5" 20-RD, Unique Ultralight-15 223 Wylde 16" Barrel AR15 HEXRIFLE. A forum community dedicated to 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Until .45 PCCs are more reasonable in price ill pass. There have been multiple people claim the same issue. What are the hives' thoughts on this platform? No buffer tube silliness to try and work around, so the folded brace or stock actually drops the footprint to something vehicle or backpack worthy. LWRCICR5TG16SPRBT. Yet, it still fired when the time came. Bench-rest groupings are great at 10 to 25 yards. Dont tell me about the top sold of anything. Meet the first model in the SMG Family, the SMG-45. The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. For that price you're retarded to buy that. This SMG-45 is in excellent condition and comes with (2) 25 round magazines, pistol grip tools, manual, and the original box. Add to Cart. Groups in close are tight (2-inches at 25 yards on a bench rest) good, at least for me and my crappy eyesight. Just talked to LWRC my gun is up for testing this week sometime after being worked on for the feeding issues and I asked if they could also test for accuracy they told me they would test for accuracy and if it didnt pass would I like them to hold onto it for me because as of now there is not a solution apparently engineering is having issues With getting parts shipped or so Im told just thought I would share that info for anyone who has their firearm there with similar issues. In the firearms industry often times you get what you pay for, and although the delayed blowback system is more expensive to produce, it keeps you on target and lengthens the firearms life due to lighter parts wear. Churn out a few thousand to drop the price, add a 10mm and 9mm option, and theyll sell like mad. Not to mention how many people with SMG/PDW/pistols/whatever put cans on them? It includes panels to aid in gripping a hot firearm following continuous strings of fire and a handstop to prevent the user from shooting their hands similar to other backpack guns like the new Daniel Defense DDM4 Personal Defense Weapon (PDW). Ships with 2 25 round US- manufactured UMP magazines with Paddle Style mag release for easy load and mag changes. 81 rounds at my disposal topped off with a Leopoldo DPP. A++++ LWRCI. Interesting, were you running a piston/nielsen device on your suppressor? Needs a booster if you want to use a can. It has been punished and torture tested in the harshest environment's, to guarantee that it will not fail when you need it most. If I had a new gun, was raving about it and then it turned into a lemon, Id let people know instantly. Secondly, it does NOT stop the rounds rattling in the magazine though its not quite as bad as before. and they will not be the last. LWRCSMG-45. My distributor has backorders for 1k+ units, and so far has received zero fro LWRC. Curious, do yall know if this one will handle .45 Super? I admit it. Rapid Fire. THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS for a semi auto machine pistol. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. You people need to learn to post pics of stuff I know nothing about. All 4 feed perfectly in this gun. LWRCI SMG 45 Specifications Make: LWRC International Model: SMG 45 Action Type: short-recoil-delayed, blowback-operated, semi-automatic, center-fire pistol Chambering: .45 ACP . LWRCI ICR5TG16SPRBT IC-SPR 556 16.1 BILLET TUNG. See if there's a "V1" stamp etched into the back near the bottom. I know its not gonna be some precision shooter but I also dont want to have absolutely terrible groups at 20 yards, Im waiting for mine to be sent back from LWRC was having feeding issues with the v1 mags with or without my sil co osprey With booster even disassembled the can and cleaned and oiled the booster with the same results never got a chance to check accuracy since the first test was so disappointing that I immediately sent it back they claimed they will test with an osprey I hope they test accuracy as well since they now know its a problem SN 15xx. I'm thrilled to hear that this rifle is finally shipping. $ 2,499.00 For sale is a LWRC SMG-45 semi-automatic pistol in .45 ACP. $19.99 for firearms: details: Primary Arms. Jun 30, 2022. 578-28 RH RIFLING: 1:16 RH | 6 Grooves Features: LWRCI SHORT RECOIL DELAYED BLOWBACK SYSTEM LWRCI HIGH PERFORMANCE ALUMINUM AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION LWRCI RAIL PANELS LWRCI SMG .45- PISTOL CALIBER PERFECTION. Mainly just another fun expensive range toy. Maybe get a good one or a dud hoping Lwrc knows whats causing it and is able to fix it . Thumb is talking about. Description. Unfortunately I hear the UMP is a big step down in quality from the MP5.. by 3dcart Online Store Creator. HKUMPUMP45. Answer (1 of 15): The AR market is so flush right now that that the cheapest AR style rifle is actually an AR-15. Thus, its just an interesting photo on the interwebs. A .45 Subgun pistol I could SBR down the road. Please enter your username or email address. What does this offer over that? Cookie Notice gunbroker rgf7018 Burnt Bronze DI w/ Vortex Razer too much color? For moral support, I took a good high school friend of mine (we are in our 50s) that is a teacher and has no experience firing these type of weapons. LWRCI SMG .45- PISTOL CALIBER PERFECTION. No, its not a popular handgun cartridge, because when you have to hold a double stack 45 handgun it always feels like a behemoth. A 45 and Ill gun like that has always appealed to me. For the commercial market it will be available in both SBR and SB Tactical pistol-braced pistol forms. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. When I heard they were finally releasing the smg I was excited just got mine and it was totally worth every penny.. you get what you pay for already filed my tax stamp for SBR.. just need to know where to buy the stock! The LWRC SMG-45 Crown is a Submachine Gun. The PCC in 45 is an awesome option for any kind of endeavour you choose. LWRC. Would go with a BT APC .45. And yeah, I know the APC 45 pro will be close in price. The new LWRCI SMG-45 is an extremely nice looking and feeling, high quality firearm. Brand Winchester Expiration date 2023-Apr-30. Any updates yet? I sure hope they get it figured out and soon. First few times taking apart and putting back together were painful but OK now that I know the tricks. LWRCI's SMG 45 is built to the highest quality standards of any SUB-GUN on the market today. Anyone have any further updates on the smg 45? Time will tell need to get to the range with it more. Cosmohumanist Friends, a major seller in AZ appears to be liquidating 10.5" DIs for a huge discount. 9mm Luger guy here so it's a pass for me. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. (Although my Barrett MRAD is definitely in the top-3. Mine has ran flawlessly for approximately 1500rds now, No accuracy issue for me, but the bolt shattered around 1,000 rounds. You should have no problem finding one." Minuteman. Active rebates (10) Winchester Target Rifle Ammo Rebate 2023. Your friend will receive an email from you with a link to our site. You could also buy 10 Hi Point carbines for that price, and in several different calipers of your choice. Considering the APC9 is in 9mm and its DI Buffer system is very efficient I think that is a huge complement to have the same recoil as something shooting a bullet half the size. Gunprime reserves the right to modify or change pricing information or descriptions without notice. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Most of my AR-9 builds use Colt-style mags because I love how that looks over the slanted Glock mags or the banana clips seen on the MP5 or the Ruger 10/22. I thought about saving up for one of these, and then thought more about it, I'd rather reach out to Tom Bostic or HK Ralph Jr. and build something. Not going to happen. Solid feel but distributed well across the entire platform. Mine has been fine on both counts but I haven't shot it much recently. The gun will not group better than 6 to 8 inch groups at 25yrds. Pretty sweet but lots of issues. It's needed since it's recoil operated just like a tilting barrel pistol and extra weight affects it the same way. $30.00. We both shot 1 inch groups from the standing position. I shoot suppressed almost exclusively in order to save what little hearing I have left. The ambidextrous controls and MLOK handguard makes for a highly customizable weapons platform. They may have fixed the accuracy issue with the new models. "mag 45" soo it shoots .45 Auto Mag? Keep those in mind, and follow the online videos, and eventually you'll muscle through reassembly. Grouped like shit, mine is damn consistent in its groupings. LWRC looks like they took what works: AR controls, AR parts (presumably), H&K magazines, and put on a side-charging handle and M-LOK abound. Stove piped 3 out of 5 shots. To top that off, considering the SMG-45's compact 8.5-inch barrel, this pistol will be handy with even the longest of mounted suppressors. Been badgering my local dealer to find me one when no one could find them. The SMG 45 is exhibiting a problem the LWRC knows about, and now the market does too. LWRC surprised everyone at NRAAM this year by releasing a completely new platform, the SMG-45. I did get some early jams because I overloaded the mags right out of the package. Thanks in advance. Having fired the Vector (in .45) and the MP5K both with the giggle switch installed, Im partial to the Vector. I found it odd that there was a quiet time between when he got it, had issues and then sold it. Too busy at work. Probably. The new LWRCI SMG-45 is an extremely nice looking and feeling, high quality firearm. MAGPUL LWRC 6.8mm 30rd PMAG - Black. Sexy AF, but early reports are less than stellar. Money better spent on More AMMO. Check out the ODT store for all our shirts and hat options and any other gear that may be available! Grab a drink this might get long winded!! I looked into this too, BTDT. New From LWRC: SMG-45 .45 ACP SBR and Pistol, NYT Reporter: LaPierre Unanimously Re-Elected, Its Official: LaPierre, All NRA Officers Unanimously Re-Elected Without Opposition, Meadows Elected President, Kiger Updates the 9c Compact With the New Kiger-9c Pro 9mm Pistol, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine, Whats In Your Wallet? Just read some reviews on the B&T and none were flattering. So I guess the accuracy issue is not the bolt. A transfer, not for sale. Without adding too much length on to any host firearm, this SiCo suppressor is one of the most maneuverable on our 45 ACP suppressor list. In my occupation with my team we needed something to fill the role between pistol and long gun so I have experience with a wide range of sub guns, but being left handed I always had to compromise with certain features and most platforms I used and trained with tended to have ambi controls that just seemed to be added as an afterthought. The most common delayed blowback is one implemented by H&K in MP-5 and G3. $10.40. Got mine the other day SN 21##. Wife really enjoyed shooting which she is does not like shooting my .45 handguns for size and stability. Better Security for the Home. I have an interesting range report for you. Dumped the LWRCi. Now I have to fight her for it during couple shoots. Does anyone have one yet that could shed any light on what its like in person? Well, that and the 5K is just plain cool as hell. Perfect truck gun for conceal. Constructed using high performance aluminum and steel materials with premium hard coat anodized nitride nickel boron surface treatments throughout, the SMG .45 is built to last. The tension should be just enough for the barrel to flex in-and-out (forward and backward) but just barely. I am on the hunt also, I might buy a APC45 PRO while I am waiting. It was rusty and ill-maintained. My buddy bought one. LWRC SMG 45 Problems Prudii Jul 28, 2020 5 3,392 Prudii PMMEYOURCZPICS Supporting Member Multi-Factor Enabled Joined Jun 11, 2017 Messages 1,442 Location Triad Rating - 100% 35 0 0 Jul 28, 2020 #1 TL;DW Significant accuracy issues across multiple guns with random flyers 10+ MOA away from point of aim. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Compare prices for 850006403509 - LWRC International SMG Pistol 45 ACP SMGPB45B8S from all vendors. Still, video games get people into guns. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I like the ump mags instead of Glock mags for this. LWRC SMG-45 By DK535, November 12, 2021 in Other Firearms & Non-NFA Reply to this topic Start new topic DK535 Forum Dabbler Members 3 14 posts Trader Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted November 12, 2021 Does anyone know if the SMG-45 is legal to own in NJ? This baby eats everything and is now my full time travel companion (sorry mpx-k) totally worth the wait an the price. JavaScript is disabled. Comes with two magazines. I have a SIG MPX PCC as one of my bedside firearms. ago There have been multiple people claim the same issue. It would be a cool gun to own if it was in 10mm and was closer to $1,500. JavaScript is disabled. Hit the same failure to feed problems with only one of the two included magazines. I can't wait to see how the 9mm version shoots! I had an interesting experience with my SMG-45 acquired early SN: 000118. I really want one or these just a little nervous from issues people had with the gen 1s. What if they just used a set pin instead of a grub screw (or whatever type screw theyre using). LWRC SMG UMP 45 Auto Magazine 25 Round. PISTOL CALIBER PERFECTION. Absolutely love this sub-gun and couldn't be happier with the fit, finish, accuracy or reliability. If you want something expensive that works get a B&T or H&K something instead. Hell, it could have been a lengthy internal discussion, it could have been the head of the company likes 45 so much and scoffed at everyone else. All the bullets went in the same tight group. I have one. Next time I go to the range, I'm taking the front portion of the suppressor off to see if the weight subtraction will increase the reliability. The long-awaited LWRC SMG-45 arrived this month in a Gun Shop near you. Just about the coolest looking piece of shit ever made. Advanced Trigger Guard Polymer. He lives outside of Austin, TX. Hopefully you are using the piston booster. Unfortunately for LWRC, the MP5, MPX, and CMMG banshee all do it a lot cheaper. By popular demand, LWRC confirmed that they are working on a 9x19mm version of the SMG-45, but did not confirm a release date. You can shoot a PCC much faster and more accurately than a pistol. Crown version of the LWRC SMG-45. Final verdict: Because of its construction, the SilencerCo Omega 45K is a great suppressor for either PCCs or handguns. $2350 shipped. Double check the back of the mags. I first shot it with the 15rd mag and suppressed with a AAC Tirant 45M. This has never been shot. After repair, the accuracy is still good. It didnt work out so well. Helping that threaded muzzle be more effective when suppressed and greatly cutting down on felt recoil as compared to a straight blowback system is a unique delayed blowback mechanism. This SMG has been shown at least since NRA 2016 in Louisville, theyve had plenty of opportunity to change to 9MM and go to M-LOK, especially considering its stratospheric (for a pistol caliber PDW) $3000 price tag. So basically its no better than UMP. That is sweet, but that price tag Wow, kinda surprised you actually got one, let alone two. Used it on a buy/walk tonight and it's the perfect size and weight for vehicle operations. .Personally, if I was going to buy something specifically because I saw it in a game it would be like the BFG from Doom, Gravity Gun from Half-Life or something crazy from Borderlands or the Destiny franchise., Im still waiting for a phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range. The other shot just fine. Personally, if I was going to buy something specifically because I saw it in a game it would be like the BFG from Doom, Gravity Gun from Half-Life or something crazy from Borderlands or the Destiny franchise. But $3k That's top end pricing man. December 9, 2021 in Pistol Caliber Carbine. The CMMG Guard and Banshee also use a true delayed blowback. I've had a chance to play with mine a bit and I really like the whole setup. Aug . Every shot is super-fun. However now that I have been running the SMG-45 and have several thousand rounds down the pipe I'm a believer. The mags are the issue to me. Always. You have entered an incorrect email address! Yeah I'm using the Neilson device that's standard on the AAC TiRant 45M. Solid as a brick; awesome recoil abatement through the delayed blowback and the fact I can use ubiquitous UMP mags. It may not display this or other websites correctly. $65.95. If you want to spend less than half for a legit 45 ACP AR upper, get a Macon Armory DI45. Sponsored Radical Firearms Socom RPR 556 Nato AR-15 Rifle. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. $3k for a short-recoil PCC? Weight: 10.7 oz. If you see one in a gun store all the people my age and below want to marvel at it, play with it and a bunch of them end up muzzling people with it. A tubular folding stock graces the rear of the SBR version. This is the 2nd one of these that I've owned. One new winner* is announced every week! Its good to know there are ones that work well out there . I hope they can get the price down to more realistic levels We don't have a bias towards one brand or another but after handling and shooting both guns the B&T was our preference. I dunno about Rainbow Six but the original CS made the PSG-1, G3 and Styer Scout popular and MW3/The Division both made the Vector popular along with the Osprey line of suppressors from SiCo. All firearms ship from our APPROVED FFL Dealers. It is longer than the existing spring but not quite as long as the V1 magazine spring and it's obviously not the same type of spring as the V1, its outward finish is the same as the Non-V1 Mag spring, NOT BLACK like the V1 Spring. It comes with two US-made UMP magazines that can easily be found for stockpiling. 2 mags are USA made and 2 mags are German made. Ambidextrous features: Selector switch Magazine release Bolt catch/release "LWRC's innovation applied to the subgun world - very . Easy take down and assembly. It uses a delayed blowback recoil system and has very light recoil compared to your typical 9mm AR. I saw the same video this afternoon as well. I elected to take the suppressor off and fine tune the zero. I really wish it wasnt 3k . HK bUMP Evidently MY SMG doesn't like the extra weight of the suppressor on the front end. Im a LWRC. Lwrc smg 45 pistol. Quick View. Im sure Im not alone. Has MOS and suppressor Height Sights, Desert Tech MDRx vs CZ Bren 2 Carbine vs LWRC IC-A5, FS/FT Mk18 (BLK) with upgrades $2k weekend only, FS Springfield Lightweight compact Range Officer, FS Zro Delta AR-15 (over 1400 value) PRICE REDUCED, FT John Wick Budget Blaster /glock 34 gen 5 MOS, FS/FT 16 Springfield Saint - upgraded rail & gas block Vltor, ADM, FS Sig P320 XFull with Romeo1Pro *REDUCED*, FS AR-15 with Monstrum Spectre LPVO - Rare Left Eye Dominant Config, FS/FT NEW - RADICAL FIREARMS AR PISTOL 10.5" BARREL - $369.99 CASH. Never could understand pissing money away on expensive toys that sit on the shelf to be bragged about. Im a big fan of the UMP, and this looks like it will be a good alternative to that! When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. A delayed blowback is a different system. LWRL04-0038C01. Yeah, games sell guns and get people into firearms. map. If I had the opportunity and extra cash Id already own one. When you pick it up you can instantly recognize that it just feels ready for work, and that was exactly what I was wanting. LWRC SMG .45 (This magazine is the factory OEM magazine for the LWRC SMG 45) Gideon Shadow .45 Tommy Built Tactical .45 Other applications where they use the HK UMP style 45 magazine Specifications: Capacity: 25-Rounds Fits: All HK UMP45 firearms Compliance: Each magazine counts as 3 US-made complaint parts Made 100% in the USA Steel feed lips Been following it since it was announced. Muzzle is threaded. Thats kinda ridiculous. Think: $3k = KAC SR15, FN SCAR, B&T APC, etc. Follow Our Other Media Pages: @rshgungroup Show more LWRC SMG 45 Overview 4.7K views 1 year ago 9mm vs 45 ACP, WE END THE. Got the zero pretty much on but it was still scattered all over the target. It's an added bonus that it's coming from a company with great people that are very helpful if you ever have the pleasure to call them. RF knew all about this line of getting people into guns which is why he originally wanted game reviews for TTAG, along with some other techno based stuff to get people, especially younger people into the 2A community. The fact that its not a simple blowback design is nice, the design seems pretty robust, and I like the fact that it shoots an inherently sub-sonic round.
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